Legislature(1995 - 1996)

02/28/1995 03:00 PM House ITT

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                   HOUSE SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON                                  
                INTERNATIONAL TRADE AND TOURISM                                
                       February 28, 1995                                       
                           3:00 p.m.                                           
                                                                               
                                                                               
 MEMBERS PRESENT                                                               
                                                                               
 Representative Beverly Masek, Chairman                                        
 Representative Alan Austerman, Vice Chairman                                  
 Representative Jeannette James                                                
 Representative Pete Kott                                                      
 Representative Brian Porter                                                   
 Representative Caren Robinson                                                 
                                                                               
 MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                
                                                                               
 Representative Irene Nicholia                                                 
                                                                               
 COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                            
 HITT - 02/28/95                                                               
 * HB 162:  "An act related to the authority of certain beverage               
            dispensary licensees to stock alcoholic beverages in               
            guest rooms."                                                      
                                                                               
            PASSED OUT OF COMMITTEE                                            
                                                                               
 Overview of Committee Objectives                                              
                                                                               
 (* First public hearing)                                                      
                                                                               
 WITNESS REGISTER                                                              
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PETE KOTT                                                      
 Alaska State Legislature                                                      
 State Capitol, Room 432                                                       
 Juneau, AK  99801                                                             
 Phone:  465-3777                                                              
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Prime Sponsor of HB 162                                  
                                                                               
 DENNIS LAVEY, Owner                                                           
 Days Inn Hotel                                                                
 321 E 5th Avenue                                                              
 Anchorage, AK 99501                                                           
 Phone:  276-7226                                                              
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported HB 162                                         
                                                                               
 BILL DUGDALE, General Manager                                                 
 Westmark Hotel                                                                
 720 W 5th Avenue                                                              
 Anchorage, AK 99501                                                           
 Phone:  276-7676                                                              
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported HB 162                                         
                                                                               
 MICHAEL ALLEN, General Manager                                                
 Westmark Hotel                                                                
 51 Egan Drive                                                                 
 Juneau, AK 99801                                                              
 Phone:  586-6900                                                              
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported HB 162                                         
                                                                               
 MITCH GRAVO, Lobbyist                                                         
 Alaska Hotel and Motel Association                                            
 170 Botanical Circle                                                          
 Anchorage, AK 99515                                                           
 Phone:  244-2406                                                              
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Supported HB 162                                         
                                                                               
 DAVID STANCLIFF, Legislative Assistant                                        
   to Representative Beverly Masek                                             
 State Capitol, Room 418                                                       
 Juneau, AK  99801                                                             
 Phone: 465-2688                                                               
 POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave overview of committee objectives                    
                                                                               
 PREVIOUS ACTION                                                               
                                                                               
 BILL:  HB 162                                                               
 SHORT TITLE: ALCOHOL SALES IN HOTEL ROOMS                                     
 SPONSOR(S): REPRESENTATIVE(S) KOTT, Toohey, James                             
                                                                               
 JRN-DATE     JRN-PG                ACTION                                     
 02/08/95       272    (H)   READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRAL(S)                 
 02/08/95       272    (H)   ITT, L&C                                          
 02/16/95       407    (H)   COSPONSOR(S): JAMES                               
 02/28/95              (H)   ITT AT 02:30 PM CAPITOL 408                       
                                                                               
 ACTION NARRATIVE                                                              
                                                                               
 TAPE 95-4, SIDE A                                                             
                                                                               
 The House Special Committee on International Trade and Tourism was            
 called to order by Chairman Beverly Masek at 3:00 p.m.  Members               
 present at the call to order were Representatives Masek, Austerman,           
 Kott, Porter, and Robinson.  Members absent were Representatives              
 James and Nicholia.                                                           
 Number 026                                                                    
 HITT - 02/28/95                                                               
 HB 162 - ALCOHOL SALES IN HOTEL ROOMS                                       
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE PETE KOTT, PRIME SPONSOR, stated that HB 162 enabled           
 hotels/motels to place a refrigerated or non-refrigerated                     
 device/cabinet into individual rooms stocked with alcoholic                   
 beverages for purchase.  There are enough mechanisms built into the           
 system to ensure that the sale of beverages is to those currently             
 authorized.  He felt this would benefit the domestic and                      
 international visitors traveling to Alaska.  He added that if                 
 someone wants alcohol, they'll find a way to get it.  He'd prefer             
 that they have the option in their room to acquire it versus                  
 driving a rental car to a bar and getting inebriated and driving              
 back to the hotel.                                                            
                                                                               
 Number 092                                                                    
                                                                               
 DENNIS LAVEY, OWNER, DAYS INN HOTEL, and President of the Alaska              
 Hotel/Motel Association (AHMA), which represents 80 hotels in                 
 Alaska.  He stated the mini-bar or in-room service/refreshment                
 center units are known world-wide today and are not just for                  
 dispensing alcohol but, snacks as well.  Seventy percent of the               
 sales are snacks, not alcohol.  Actually, the biggest selling item            
 is bottled water, for those concerned about water in a given                  
 area/country.                                                                 
                                                                               
 MR. LAVEY continued that with the technology available today, the             
 new machines eliminate the concerns about selling alcohol at                  
 certain hours or the capabilities of minors obtaining it.  The                
 machines and the computer systems that control them are able to               
 block access during particular times or to minors.  In a different            
 vein, he spoke of foreign guests that may not know how to ask for             
 these items.  The technology allows a foreign language to be                  
 displayed at these machines, enabling and simplifying the guests'             
 purchase of these items.                                                      
                                                                               
 MR LAVEY offered there will be additional jobs in stocking and                
 servicing these machines.  He noted that there are only six states            
 (Alaska, Utah, Arkansas, Mississippi, Nebraska and South Carolina)            
 that have not legalized these mini-bars.  The other five states are           
 generally anti-alcohol.  He concurred that it would be better to              
 have people drinking in their room than driving a rental car,                 
 especially here in the wintertime, looking for adult beverages.               
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE BRIAN PORTER questioned if the terminology quoting             
 a "refrigerated" unit was too restrictive, or are all the units               
 refrigerated?                                                                 
                                                                               
 MR. LAVEY responded that he has not seen any that weren't                     
 refrigerated.  The non-refrigerated items are housed in a separate            
 non-refrigerated compartment that is still behind the same door.              
 The terminology is fine with him.                                             
                                                                               
 Number 178                                                                    
                                                                               
 BILL DUGDALE, GENERAL MANAGER, WESTMARK HOTEL (Anchorage), offered            
 his endorsement of HB 162.  Since this effort began two years ago,            
 there have been six additional states that have passed similar                
 legislation.  The industry has a good success rate providing this             
 guest convenience.  It's a feature that many travelers have come to           
 expect on international and domestic levels.  He added that many              
 insurance companies have no problem with  coverage on hotels that             
 do have these in-room refreshment centers.                                    
                                                                               
 MR. DUGDALE recalled that two years ago, this legislation was                 
 successful in being moved through the House and Senate but, was               
 vetoed by Gov. Hickel.  The Governor's position was that he didn't            
 want to make alcohol more accessible to people "within" Alaska.               
 Mr. Dugdale concurred on the greater risk factor for guests                   
 consuming alcohol having driven somewhere to get it versus the                
 confines of a hotel room.  It's a huge benefit for women travelers            
 who are uncomfortable going to a lounge/bar and, would prefer a               
 cocktail in the privacy of their own room.                                    
                                                                               
 MICHAEL ALLEN, GENERAL MANAGER, WESTMARK HOTEL (Juneau), fully                
 supports HB 162.   According to hospitality demographics, people              
 are spending more time in their rooms.  They look for ways to                 
 increase in-room amenities.  They see it as a safety factor; less             
 time spent outside the room resolves crime issues.  Hotels have               
 adequate control systems in place to ensure meeting the criteria              
 being met in lounges and restaurants in dispensing alcohol.                   
                                                                               
 Number 244                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE ALAN AUSTERMAN asked if any hotels were using these            
 facilities without alcohol?  He felt if the other items were so               
 popular, they could already be in place without offering the                  
 alcohol portion of it.                                                        
                                                                               
 MR. ALLEN responded not to his knowledge.                                     
                                                                               
 Representative James arrived at 3:15 p.m.                                     
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE KOTT offered that these units are expensive.  If one           
 isn't allowed to sell alcohol as part of that convenience package,            
 the profit margin wouldn't justify the expense for the system.  He            
 doubted that every single room would have one initially because of            
 the up-front cost.                                                            
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN inquired if the wording on page 2, lines             
 1 and 2, regarding the key or combination lock system, is                     
 sufficient to cover electronic capability.                                    
                                                                               
 MR. ALLEN affirmed that the wording is sufficient to cover                    
 electronic measures controlled by the hotel front desk.                       
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN BEVERLY MASEK asked if package stores, restaurants and               
 bars are in support of this bill.                                             
                                                                               
 MITCH GRAVO, LOBBYIST, ALASKA HOTEL AND MOTEL ASSOCIATION,                    
 volunteered that the Cabaret Hotel and Restaurant Retail                      
 Association (CHARR) is in favor of this legislation.                          
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN made the motion to move HB 162 with                  
 individual recommendations, and the zero fiscal note to the next              
 committee.                                                                    
                                                                               
 There being no objections, HB 162 passed out of committee.                    
 Number 297                                                                    
                                                                               
 DAVID STANCLIFF, LEGISLATIVE ASSISTANT TO REPRESENTATIVE MASEK,               
 began by outlining the agenda for the committee objectives.  The              
 first step was bringing in the Division of Tourism, the Alaska                
 Visitors Association, (AVA), and the Alaska Tourism Marketing                 
 Council, (ATMC), to educate and inform the committee on tourism and           
 how these agencies interact.  The next step is to get input from              
 important vendors within each member's district.                              
                                                                               
 MR. STANCLIFF mentioned that, in like manner, they will look into             
 successful methods employed in other states.  He cited Colorado's             
 successful effort in replacing 30-second spots, which are expensive           
 and produce negligible results with 30-minute programs that are               
 considerably more motivating.  He said he is looking into that                
 method, termed sponsor-driven television, and has two experts to              
 explain how it works.  It's spending $450,000 and, over the course            
 of five years, has a guaranteed audience of one billion people                
 internationally.                                                              
                                                                               
 MR. STANCLIFF stated Representative Masek's effort in exploring               
 other options is to receive not just value but, also quality for              
 the tourism advertising dollar.  The committee should formulate a             
 strong informed recommendation to the industry for implementation.            
 Another concern is the question of who is controlling the industry.           
 The legislature must have the ability to redirect the focus of                
 tourism.  This committee should also have access to the revenue               
 figures of larger companies in evaluating their gain against the              
 state's costs.                                                                
                                                                               
 MR. STANCLIFF summed up by suggesting that after hearing from                 
 vendors and reviewing new possibilities, Representative Masek would           
 be comfortable preparing a report from this committee to the                  
 legislature, to be shared with the Governor, containing                       
 recommendations to the budget subcommittee and the full Finance               
 Committee on how things should go for the dollars being spent.  The           
 legislature needs to have an active role in determining the path.             
                                                                               
 Number 378                                                                    
                                                                               
 REPRESENTATIVE AUSTERMAN asked what kind of time frame is Mr.                 
 Stancliff anticipating getting the information on the Colorado                
 program.                                                                      
 MR. STANCLIFF replied he has received the information, is going               
 through it and will later present it to the committee.  The next              
 phase would be to hear from the vendors, in March, after which the            
 committee could then recommend changes.  In April, they'll shift              
 over to trade.                                                                
                                                                               
 ADJOURNMENT                                                                   
                                                                               
 There being no further business before the committee, CHAIRMAN                
 MASEK adjourned the meeting at 3:30 p.m.                                      
                                                                               

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